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22. Well it first must be noted that compared to the [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. And they were not the only ones. Did they think they would just stand there and watch? Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! THIS IS PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE AND IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. This claim is often mentioned alongside the above claim about the apparent discrepancy in the number of portholes on Titanic's port side bow. They were only just entering the icefield. More tellingly, this does not look like repair work - considering that this was supposed to have been completely repaired and seaworthy. It was our intention if we had fine weather on Monday afternoon or Tuesday to The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. )", By December 1911, Titanic was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. LET'S SEE THE "EXPERTS" DEBUNK THIS ONE." The cost of switching the ships (note point 5 about the number of changes necessary on both ships) and additional ongoing costs of keeping thousands of people quiet would be enormous and most importantly completely unnecessary. Of course there is no testimony from Ballard himself, or from any of the other expeditions who would clearly have also seen this. The above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in portholes. Of course there is none. 1 were never lit at all. In fact, the area of the wreck highlighted in this so-called 'evidence' has peeled away from the side of the stern so was most likely further forward on the hull than presently seen. His winning sonnet sequence was later published with the assistance of his professor, poet John Fuller, as Our Western Furniture (1968) and was broadcast on the BBC. The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . The wind blows through his silver hair. How many crew and passengers were onboard prior to the rescue? Please note how it does not match the so-called 'Titanic' image in the 'meme.' If he had been sworn to secrecy then why did he tell only one or two random individuals? Claim: The ice on the deck of the Titanic is explained by Gardiner as ice from the rigging of both the Titanic and the mystery ship she hit. 2nd-class: 200 There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. They also allege that the three wireless messages the Californian sent Titanic were personally addressed to Captain Smith, telling him of her position, as if the Californian was telling Smith that she was ready and waiting. Ballard has nothing to gain from keeping it a secret - it would be huge publicity for him. Take the dining saloon. Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". 4. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the Claim: The Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of around 45,000, while the Titanic weighed in [sic] at about 46,000. Compare it with the damage photograph below. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains this particular claim: According to the book "The Ship That Never Sank" (pages 134-135) B Deck had no cabins extending to the hull as boats were visible. aware she never exceeded 75 revolutions. According to Britannica.com "on April 11, 1912, the Carpathia departed from New York City for Fiume, carrying some 740 passengers." In regard to J.P. Morgan cancelling "at the last minute," research by Mark Baber and posted on Encyclopedia Titanica actually reveals it to be an urban myth. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. In the following photographs we can clearly see a curved wheelhouse under construction during Olympic's fitting out stage, firstly just prior to launch and secondly after the launch. The fireplace filmed in 1995 and which partly was shown in the "Titanic" movie at the beginning were actually the fireplace of sitting room B 51 which was occupied by Mrs. Cardeza and her son. James Fenton was born in Lincoln in 1949 and educated at Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the Newdigate Prize for poetry. Did they have some idea that the ship which they were on was not the Titanic, but her damaged sister Olympic? 1 2. 33. After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. This is demonstrably false information. In a similarly themed false claim, it is also stated that "when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in 1935 (arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th 1935 to be stripped and broken down) part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK. An example of the many adverts that show the Olympic instead of Titanic - logical considering one was the older sister. 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary 2. About 29 results for James Fenton's poetry masterclass. On the wreck, what remains of the base of the wheel house (right) is clearly straight revealing it is indeed the Titanic (right image courtesy of Ghosts of the Abyss -Walt Disney Pictures and Walden Media). Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. One issue with this theory is that The origin of this seems to have come from Paddy the pig, also known as James Fenton, who later in life related the following: When the certainly not be unusual to discover a bulkhead in the stern of the wreck of Olympic, Titanic or Britannic and certainly does not prove a 'switch'. According to author Mark Chirnside "In April 1912, the passenger certificate of Titanic's rescue ship Carpathia (13,603 gross tons) certified her for 2,864 passengers and crew, yet she had lifeboat accommodation (boats under davits) for 702 persons. (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com). Olympic had 16 bow portholes. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking, 30. Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. Difference in tonnage 7. However, there are several large issues with this theory. We asked them the height of the berg and some said one hundred feet, others, sixty feet; one of the onlookers a motor engineer travelling to America with a model This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? carburetter (he had filled in his declaration To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the Incidentally, although called 'Old Reliable' her 24 years The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. This has already been discussed here. Actually it is quite simply medium grey primer that was used on all three Olympic class ships, including Titanic, 18. Under the circumstances it is perfectly logical. 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. He continues that on the starboard side Steward Wheelton met Thomas Andrews on B Deck and that the boats were visible from the corridor on B Deck. To be able to go into that room and see that marble fireplace still sitting there Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one Order. But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. Another set of poems was published by Fullers press as the broadsheet Put Thou Thy Tears into My Bottle (1969). This is another one of those inaccurate claims that more importantly does not make any sense even if it was accurate. Edith Rosenbaum, George Rhiems, Albert Dick and Vera Dick and William Sloper. There are three key points regarding this claim: 1. Clutch my hand. The reality is that the Californian's cargo manifest does not exist. name on it. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains further: "Ismay's sitting room was explored by James Cameron during his 2001 dives. Courtesy Steve Hall. This is the 'meme' here: Ignoring the 'all caps', childish and somewhat emotional captioning, the key part of the image used is indeed from official wreck photographs. (Click to enlarge). It is the Olympic, not Titanic. Survivor Lawrence Beesley wrote about men in the smoking room sighting the iceberg in his book, "The Loss of the SS Titanic": "One of them had seen through the windows an iceberg go by towering above the decks. 4. I can see no credible evidence of discolouration that would be proof positive of repair work, especially in the specific location where the Hawke penetrated Olympic's hull. in the Government. And also the Olympic was 500 miles away and would have been a much better solution if such a rescue was necessary. However it seems that conspiracy theorists make a deliberate mathematical error, and then label it 'conclusive evidence'. EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? 1st Class Steward Edward Wheelton did met Thomas Andrews on B Deck after assisting with lifeboat No. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. The list is believed to be accurate, but may contain some errors. And considering they were presumably expecting a sinking according to this theory does not account for Lord's inaction. Olympic officers on the bridge Though most of his work was ultimately discarded, Fenton was nonetheless contracted to receive somewhat less than 1 percent of royalties, which, because of the overwhelming international success of the musical, amounted to a substantial sum that made him independently wealthy. 1949) grew up in Lincolnshire and Staffordshire and was educated at Repton and Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the prestigious Newdigate Prize for his sonnet sequence 'Our Western Furniture'. - Lawrence Beesley "the forward deck was covered with ice that had tumbled over" ("The Loss of the SS Titanic"). James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. 46. 45. and loss account for the year to December 31 st 1911 was in surplus by 1,102,756 His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. The marble filmed on the wreck exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. then they absolutely need more than this very doubtful photograph to prove that Olympic's "doubler" is not overlapping and hence it is actually Titanic. It began in January of 1912 I was wondering if there was enough information available about the conspiracy theories to warrant expansion or even a separate article. Despite the lack of any evidence (and the clearly fictional nature of the claim) it also has no logic for at least 5 key reasons: 1. However this claim goes with the assumption that the White Star Line was suffering financially. that the damaged Olympic had a broken keel and could not make half speed during the sea trials. B-deck window spacing on the wreck If a number of people had cancelled because of some sort of fear of a switch or insurance scam going on, it seems very likely that they would have spoken out after the disaster. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. damage control, especially prior to an official inquiry.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'titanicswitch_com-banner-1','ezslot_2',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-titanicswitch_com-banner-1-0'); Claim: Harold Sanderson, from shipbuilder Harland and Wolff, repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic at the British inquiry. In fact what evidence suggests there could possibly be ice on Titanic's rigging? There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. and would never get a job when they got out. Was the confusion because they had been switched? Claim: The surviving crew were detained overnight and forced to sign a pledge under the 'Official Secrets Act', promising to keep secret forever, the actual events of the night of 14th / 15th April, 1912. The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. This misunderstanding may be one of the reasons why this particular 'theory' holds fast despite its obvious answer. The claim that Olympic got them is absurd. Claim: Titanic had 14 bow portholes. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. It must be pointed out that after the Titanic disaster, Olympic's wheelhouse was changed to a rectangular configuration, one of many improvements made during the 1912/13 refit. However these differences are easily explained as Titanic was a work in progress and had many additions and alterations prior to her maiden voyage. On the Olympic I am speaking of? (Click image to see full photograph). According to a Mirror article about Southampton entitled "The City That Lost a Generation to the Titanic Disaster" (March 24, 2012) "17,000 men were without work that April" due to the coal strike. On Olympic the fireplace was at the outer wall between two windows. But also it must be noted that there were tours of Not to mention that the name Titanic was first filmed on the wreck in 1987 and it certainly does not look As it is a montage that was artificially created they could have quite easily ensured that this area was not accurately shown.? Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. After this documentary went to air Steve Hall co-authored a new book Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets Additionally, they were not "in the middle of a coal strike". Take a look at the two photographs and compare for yourself. off the bell. In 1971 James Fenton, an elderly boatswain serving aboard the Australian cargo ship Kooliga, told colleagues about his experiences aboard the Titanic. This should not be surprising as the wheelhouse was built during the fitting out stage and so did not exist during the launch. If not, it is a moot point. Hence post-Titanic-sinking images of Olympic also have this 16 porthole configuration. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. 3rd-class: 2,250. The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. In fact his comment was made at least 30 years after the disaster (he was 20 while aboard Titanic), so could well have been an exaggeration. Difference in Titanic's name plate Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. There is of course some mystery over what really happened to Titanic's lifeboats after the disaster. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. She had not all her boilers on, none of the single-ended He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . In this photograph we see Captain Smith and First officer Murdoch on Olympic's bridge and clearly see a curved wheelhouse behind them. Additionally, especially as the ship was being labelled "practically unsinkable" how would they explain this 'mysterious' flooding to the inquiries that would no doubt take place afterward? of her 24 double-ended boilers connected up." 'The Olympic Room' 8. full speed. Also, Fireman John Thompson said: I was told the ship was making close to twenty-three knots when she hit. Chirnside and Halpern discovered that "Titanics 546 mile run from noon Saturday to noon Sunday would be her best posted Olympic survived too long for a badly damaged ship While reporting from the Philippines for The Independent in 198689, he witnessed the fall of the abusive authoritarian regime of Ferdinand Marcos. Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' Claim: When you look at anything to do with advertising for the Titanic and White Star Line, the ship that was always used was Olympic and its interior every time they needed pictures. 19343. keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity - Leading Fireman Charles Hendrickson (British Inquiry, Day 5). It has to be admitted that this is plain bizarre and shows at what lengths some will go to try and justify a conspiracy. 29. By that time Olympic was at Belfast and underwent a major refit which also included new davits and new lifeboats which were larger than the previous lifeboats.". December 31 st 1911. Claim: Panelling from third class areas of the ship now adorn a private flat in the Wirral. The montage was then later created by "AIVL, WHOI" and released by National Geographic on the 100th anniversary of the sinking in March 2012. performance, only two miles shy of Olympics best ever maiden voyage daily run, and she did that with only 21 Well, let's look at the image with and without the multi-coloured scribbles: Left: the original wreck image scaled up and rotated to match the 'meme'. bivalve shell layers 2020-11-29 23:19 . And how much ice would be on rigging anyway? The wreck clearly has a flat wheelhouse and hence it must be Titanic. 100 cubic feet equals 1 "ton" of internal volume. Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? Ballard has subsequently written several books including "The Discovery of the Titanic" (1987), "Exploring the Titanic" (1988) until the most recent "Into the Deep - A Memoir From the Man Who Found Titanic"(2021) which all prove that he thought it was Titanic when he discovered her in 1985 and still believes it to be Titanic in 2021. What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. Compare the two videos below -one is the real footage of the Titanic name on the wreck, one is fake. Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. Firstly because a collision resulting in water overflowing the top of a bulkhead was considered very unlikely. The Titanic's design used some of the most advanced technology available at the time and the ship was popularly believed to be . 45,000) in the last eight years. 38. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. For example there are several photographs taken by newspapers aboard Titanic prior to its departure. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Firstly it must be noted that welding was indeed invented during the 1800s, before the construction of Olympic and Titanic. The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. The branches creak and the shadows leap. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations Did J. P. Morgan and J. Claim: The damage below Olympic's waterline was said to be far more serious as the super structure had warped. For many years afterward its port and starboard White Star insignia were used as prizes by a local Sea Scout group. But this is not due to it being the Olympic. Was this done deliberately to help with the switch? In July 2013 he wrote to Alexandra Bruce of ForbiddenKnowledgeTV (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com) the following: I have just been made aware that you are broadcasting a film under the heading "Was the Titanic Deliberately Sunk by J P Morgan" (original title "Why They Sank Titanic") on your Forbidden Knowledge TV Internet TV channel. (Click image to enlarge). "It was a somewhat quiet affair.". In fact both Olympic and Titanic were launched with 14 portholes on the port side forecastle on C-Deck and 15 portholes on the starboard side of the same area. Nor does it prove Gardiners speculation that the name had been ground Ever since "Titanic" came out 25 years ago, a debate has arisen about a pivotal scene toward the end that has become almost as iconic as the film itself. The bulkheads were not actually sealed at the top, this oversight allowed water to flow over, filling each compartment, one at a time. First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". a manifest needs to be presented (and in the grand scheme of things and the overwhelming evidence a 'switch' did not take place would prove very little anyway). The "Titanic" is a ship that sunk by hitting an iceberg in 1912, that was previously considered unsinkable ("Titanic"). THIS IS NOT A THEORY. the boats were returned to England and reused, however boat no.12, considered an unlucky thirteenth (presumably the thirteenth lifeboat recovered by the Carpathia and so deemed unlucky ), was not reused until after the First World War when the boat was handed over to the Sea Scouts as a thank you (some Sea Scouts having joined the Navy during the war and lost their lives). Importantly it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). Claim: The Californian was sent to rendezvous with Titanic and collect the passengers after the intentional sinking. It would have been a press scoop. According to Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book "Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank?" It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. The panelling used shows a number on the frame that says 401. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset from a Sky TV show entitled "Conspiracies", presented byDanny Wallace. Bulkhead put on Olympic found in stern wreck Claim: While the wheelhouse of the Olympic was allegedly constructed in a bow fronted fashion, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship. Now, almost thirty years later, the director has one major regret regarding his depiction of a significant character in the movie. They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. 16. Researchers Bill Sauder and Parks Stephenson have come to the conclusion that in fact the dining room was not carpeted. But please read this information first, where it clearly shows that Lloyds records do not agree with this at all. 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